As there are going to be ten talks and seven discussions, I think we ought to go into many things rather carefully and hesitatingly so that we all understand what we are talking about. Don't be impatient. In one talk we cannot cover the whole ground of life. If you are hearing it for the first time and you want everything answered in the first talk, I'm afraid that is quite impossible. What we can do together is to inquire whether it is at all possible, living in this modern world with all its complex problems, with its travail [...]
Shall we continue with what we were talking about the day before yesterday? We were saying in different words the importance of a total revolution in the mind. We are used to changes in patches, fragmentary changes, and these changes take place either under compulsion, as a means of defense, or for a purpose, a moral, ethical purpose. We all recognize that there must be a fundamental, radical, total revolution of the mind. Man has lived for so long in conflict, within himself and without, in misery, functioning within the borders of his egotism, wars, deception, dishonesty, cruelty – [...]
I think we should be clear that we are not playing an intellectual game. What we are talking about is a very serious affair. I mean by that word serious the intention to go through to the very end of what we are talking about. Most of us lead rather superficial lives, lives of immediate concern, immediate pleasures, and immediate profits. When these are satisfied, we look further afield. We begin to investigate, inquire, search out something much more satisfying. I do not consider such a mind a serious mind. A serious mind is concerned not only with the [...]
During the last three talks we have been considering the importance and the urgency of radical revolution in the mind. Such a revolution cannot be the outcome of a planned, systematized intention because any revolution that follows a certain plan, a certain philosophy, a certain idea or ideology, ceases to be a revolution. It merely conforms to a pattern, however ideological, however noble. Human beings have lived for over two million years in a constant state of battle, within themselves and without, in conflict. Life is a battlefield – it actually is – both in the business world and [...]
I often wonder why you listen and I talk. Are we exchanging ideas, concepts, or are we taking a journey together, exploring, examining what we discover, so that it is not a case of speaker and listener? Is it that you want to be taught, either what to think or how to think, or do you want to gather information and data which you can add to what you have already collected during your lives? Perhaps it might help somewhat to overcome our various problems – and I am sure it would be rather interesting – if each one [...]
I think this morning we should consider the question of action. We should go into it rather deeply and see if we can find and learn an action which is not contradictory, a life in which there is no conflict of the opposites, no contradiction. Most of us live a private and a public life. A public life is broken up into fragments; we live in public with different masks, different attitudes, different poses. We have so many masks; we put them on very easily and take them off only in the privacy of our own minds and hearts. [...]
We have been saying during all these talks that human nature, what we actually are, has changed very little during all these centuries. There is a great deal of the animal in us, aggression, acquisitiveness, seeking power, position, and prestige. We have actually changed very little. Though technologically, medically, scientifically there have been vast changes, tremendous so-called progression, human beings throughout the world remain almost as they were five or seven thousand years ago. We still are in conflict within ourselves; we are still at war with others; we have divided ourselves into religions with various dogmas, into nationalities, [...]
This morning I want to go into something rather intricate. It may appear difficult, but it is really quite simple. The importance of it lies not in doing something, asking oneself what can be done about something, or searching out a way to achieve something, but in the act of listening. All communication, even at the verbal level, lies in just listening, not in trying to find out what the speaker is saying, not in making a tremendous effort to understand, to grapple with the problem of what is being said. Listening is an art, and if one can [...]
All of us must have asked ourselves whether it is possible to become totally new, to become young again, not in body obviously, but in the mind, in our hearts. Is it possible to be totally reborn, not to begin life all over again as a young man or a young girl, but to see life, with all its vast complexities, its pains and suffering, its anxieties and fears as though we were looking at it all for the first time, and then resolve it, not carry on the burden year after year until we die? Is it at [...]
During the last nine talks, we have more or less covered the various problems with which we as human beings have been burdened for many centuries. We have never been able to resolve either the wars or the sufferings that we go through physically and psychologically, nor have we resolved the many complex issues that confront each of us daily. We live on the surface, hoping that somehow, sometime, these problems will be solved. Unfortunately problems cannot be solved unless we face them, unless we know how to come to grips with them, unless we see what they actually [...]
I think all of us should be very clear as to what we mean by these discussions. First of all, it is not an entertainment. It isn't something we go to because we have an hour or two to spare, like going to a concert. It isn't mental gymnastics, showing off our cleverness or erudition. What we are trying to do is to discuss so that we can expose ourselves, not to the speaker, but to ourselves, to find out what we think, what we feel, what our reactions actually are. That demands a great deal of serious intelligence, [...]
We were discussing yesterday morning whether it is at all possible to free the mind of all beliefs, ideas, concepts, formulas, ideals, and all purposive, directive action. Unless we understand very clearly why it is important for a mind to be psychologically free of beliefs, we will never be able to face facts, to come directly in contact with what is. We are going to discuss this morning whether a mind, without having a belief, an idea, a concept, can face what it actually is. We will also go into the question of whether the mind can face fear [...]
We will continue with what we were discussing yesterday, unless you have some other question you want to discuss.
Questioner: Why don't we face the fact? What prevents us?
Krishnamurti: We cannot come to that issue until we have completely understood why we escape, and what this movement of escape is. In order not to face what actually is, we have cultivated many escapes. Without understanding why we escape, what the movement of that escape is, and what is involved in the whole structure of that movement, we cannot possibly face the fact. We also must understand [...]
We started our discussions with the question of belief, the role it plays in man's life, and whether beliefs, dogmas, formulas, ideals are necessary, because they really prevent action. When a mind is anchored to a belief, to a dogma, to an ideal, action must inevitably not only breed conflict, but contradiction; therefore, action is never innocent, clear. Clear action is only possible when there is no contradiction and no confusion.
As human beings we are very confused, and few of us are aware of that fact. When we are aware, we try to run away from it. The more [...]
Human beings are most gullible. We will believe in anything. Given sufficient pressure, propaganda, we will do all the rest. We so easily accept a new leader, a new idea, a new diet, a new doctor. People take advantage of us, people exploit us because we are always seeking pleasure, wanting more health, more intelligence, more spirituality, whatever that word may mean; we are always seeking someone who will give us more stimulation, following, looking up to someone, putting all our faith in one basket. We should be very careful, during all these discussions and talks, to put aside [...]
This morning we were going to discuss why thought brings about fragmentation of action, and in relation to that we were going to talk about violence, because that was the last question that was asked before we ended the previous meeting. Perhaps in talking over together this question of violence, we may discover for ourselves the nature of thinking, which must of necessity be fragmentary.
What do we mean by violence? Is violence something opposed to nonviolence, as hate is opposed to love? Violence includes, surely, not only the physical act of deliberately hurting another when we are very angry [...]
As this is the last discussion, what shall we talk over together?
Questioner: How is the energy that one has through intense awareness to be maintained?
Krishnamurti: I don't know, either. (Laughter) We all have problems of different kinds: financial, economic, emotional, psychological, physical – what to do and what not to do. There are despairs, there is anxiety, there is every form of psychological disturbance. We shan't meet again until next year and one of our major issues is: How am I going to live during this whole year? What is the significance, the meaning, of [...]